الصفحة الرئيسية Drz400e Hp byAdmin -ديسمبر 05, 2021 0 Drz400e Hp 625SXC Been here awhile Joined: Apr 5, 2004 Oddometer: 938 A buddy of mine is ready to make the jump from 4 wheels to two and sell his quad so he can join us on some bike rides. This will be his first bike although he quite skilled on quads and snowmobiles. I ride a SXC625 and my Brother has a D/S'd XR400. We do quite a bit of pretty serious off roading. Anyhow, Ron was planning on getting a DRZ400(street legal version) which he had sat on and liked pretty good. Now we were at the dealership today picking up a CRF80 for my nephew and Ron sat on a DRZ650 and now he thinks he may like the feel of the 650 better. How much better is the 400 off road than the 650? How much better on fire roads and paved roads is the 650? FYI...The 650 lists at about $500 less than the 400 Night and day... Night and day... About what you'd expect- if the dirt is serious, stick with the DRZ. I had a DR and now have a DRZ specifically for that reason. I much prefered the feel of the DR and hate riding the DRZ on the road, but the DRZ is a very superior dirt bike. Is he ready to flop over when he gets hung up in tough spots? Now, it DOES take skill to ride a quad fast - and to not have them flip over on you going fast in the tough stuff. But is is MUCH easier to ride a quad slowly. It'll be interesting to see how a former quad rider handles the need for momentum through tough spots. In REAL tight Eastern woods style dirt, the DR-650 (not DRZ) is gonna bust his nuts. But then, if YOU are riding a 625 there, maybe its not as tough dirt as you might think it is. Even a DRZ-400S is very heavy for a dirt bike. Frequently when I go on group rides, my DRZ is the heaviest bike in the group. But a DR-650 is a much better road bike. What actually does he want it for? what about an xr650l...a little better in the dirt than a dr and a little better on the road than a DRZ? just a thought 625SXC Been here awhile Joined: Apr 5, 2004 Oddometer: 938 We've decieded to let my buddy test ride my 625 and my brothers XR400. That should give hime a way to compare the weight difference or the DRZ400 compared to the DS650. Next question is horse power? How do the 2 Suzuki's compare in the power dept? I'm assuming that the 400 is a bit more peppy, But the 650 has alot more low end torque. Quig Been here awhile Joined: Apr 17, 2005 Oddometer: 113 Letting your bud test ride your 625SXC to get a feel for the DR650 is like driving a Ferrari to get a feel for a Hyundai. Anyway here are the differences between the two Suzi's, measured at the crank. 650 wins the torque category. DRZ400 40.00 HP @ 7600 RPM/ 28.8 ft.lbs @ 6600 RPM Compression 11.3:1 DR650 43.00 HP @ 6400 RPM/ 39.8 ft.lbs @ 4600 RPM Compression 9.5:1 I've never ridden a 625, or for that matter a DR650, but I have had a fair amount of saddle time on both the XR400 and DRZ400. They're both 400cc dirt bikes but that's where the similarities end. Comparing two stock machines, the XR400 is a lumpy motor that is o.k. with going slow. The DRZ400 really likes to be reved high and rewards you where the XR falls flat. The stock DRZ suspension works well for aggressive (relatively for the bike) riding, the XR wan't as much fun for me with stock suspenders. Either bike can go fast with a good rider. It's a good idea to let your friend test as many bikes as he can before decieding where to start, just wanted to make sure he knows you're not comparing apples to apples with those two bikes (XR400/DRZ400). One more thought, if you're going to be in the tight stuff, why not somthing smaller? It's SOOOOO much easier to learn to slide and be confident on a small machine and than transfer those skills to somthing bigger. 625SXC Been here awhile Joined: Apr 5, 2004 Oddometer: 938 Thanks for all the imput. It's hard to tell a guy what to get who really has no saddle time. He want's to buy a new bike that he can keep. It would be nice if he could pick up a XR250L used and get a feel for what works for him. The DR 650 and DR-Z 400 are both great bikes. I would say get the DR-Z 400 since it is newer technology, lighter and almost the same hp as the DR, but again light weight. If he plans on doing "quite a bit of serious off roading" then the 400 is the way to go. I love my 650, but it is NOT a dirt bike! Unless you mean dirt roads... One of the cycle mag writers said of his experience on the two bikes, "The DRZ-400 is a dirt bike that can cross the road. The DR-650 is a road bike that can be taken on an easy trail." As I recall, the guy said he bought a DR-650 and shortly traded it in for a DRZ-400. A guy I know had a similar experience. He is a big guy over 6 foot and well over 200 lbs, maybe 240, and the dealer sold him a DR-650 for his first bike, as a street legal dirt bike. But, it was killing him to actually ride it in the rocky woods. In a matter of weeks he had traded the DR in - and he went all the way down to a KDX-220 (did I get the letters right, its the 2-stroke). For actual dirt, and for learning, lighter is better. Even a DRZ is only light compared to a BWM, or to a full road bike. RT jim Long timer Joined: Mar 9, 2005 Oddometer: 2,006 Location: NH Drz400e Hp Source: https://advrider.com/f/threads/drz-400-vs-650.77035/ Facebook Twitter
A buddy of mine is ready to make the jump from 4 wheels to two and sell his quad so he can join us on some bike rides. This will be his first bike although he quite skilled on quads and snowmobiles. I ride a SXC625 and my Brother has a D/S'd XR400. We do quite a bit of pretty serious off roading. Anyhow, Ron was planning on getting a DRZ400(street legal version) which he had sat on and liked pretty good. Now we were at the dealership today picking up a CRF80 for my nephew and Ron sat on a DRZ650 and now he thinks he may like the feel of the 650 better. How much better is the 400 off road than the 650? How much better on fire roads and paved roads is the 650? FYI...The 650 lists at about $500 less than the 400
About what you'd expect- if the dirt is serious, stick with the DRZ. I had a DR and now have a DRZ specifically for that reason. I much prefered the feel of the DR and hate riding the DRZ on the road, but the DRZ is a very superior dirt bike.
Is he ready to flop over when he gets hung up in tough spots? Now, it DOES take skill to ride a quad fast - and to not have them flip over on you going fast in the tough stuff. But is is MUCH easier to ride a quad slowly. It'll be interesting to see how a former quad rider handles the need for momentum through tough spots. In REAL tight Eastern woods style dirt, the DR-650 (not DRZ) is gonna bust his nuts. But then, if YOU are riding a 625 there, maybe its not as tough dirt as you might think it is. Even a DRZ-400S is very heavy for a dirt bike. Frequently when I go on group rides, my DRZ is the heaviest bike in the group. But a DR-650 is a much better road bike. What actually does he want it for?
what about an xr650l...a little better in the dirt than a dr and a little better on the road than a DRZ? just a thought
We've decieded to let my buddy test ride my 625 and my brothers XR400. That should give hime a way to compare the weight difference or the DRZ400 compared to the DS650. Next question is horse power? How do the 2 Suzuki's compare in the power dept? I'm assuming that the 400 is a bit more peppy, But the 650 has alot more low end torque.
Letting your bud test ride your 625SXC to get a feel for the DR650 is like driving a Ferrari to get a feel for a Hyundai. Anyway here are the differences between the two Suzi's, measured at the crank. 650 wins the torque category. DRZ400 40.00 HP @ 7600 RPM/ 28.8 ft.lbs @ 6600 RPM Compression 11.3:1 DR650 43.00 HP @ 6400 RPM/ 39.8 ft.lbs @ 4600 RPM Compression 9.5:1
I've never ridden a 625, or for that matter a DR650, but I have had a fair amount of saddle time on both the XR400 and DRZ400. They're both 400cc dirt bikes but that's where the similarities end. Comparing two stock machines, the XR400 is a lumpy motor that is o.k. with going slow. The DRZ400 really likes to be reved high and rewards you where the XR falls flat. The stock DRZ suspension works well for aggressive (relatively for the bike) riding, the XR wan't as much fun for me with stock suspenders. Either bike can go fast with a good rider. It's a good idea to let your friend test as many bikes as he can before decieding where to start, just wanted to make sure he knows you're not comparing apples to apples with those two bikes (XR400/DRZ400). One more thought, if you're going to be in the tight stuff, why not somthing smaller? It's SOOOOO much easier to learn to slide and be confident on a small machine and than transfer those skills to somthing bigger.
Thanks for all the imput. It's hard to tell a guy what to get who really has no saddle time. He want's to buy a new bike that he can keep. It would be nice if he could pick up a XR250L used and get a feel for what works for him.
The DR 650 and DR-Z 400 are both great bikes. I would say get the DR-Z 400 since it is newer technology, lighter and almost the same hp as the DR, but again light weight.
If he plans on doing "quite a bit of serious off roading" then the 400 is the way to go. I love my 650, but it is NOT a dirt bike! Unless you mean dirt roads...
One of the cycle mag writers said of his experience on the two bikes, "The DRZ-400 is a dirt bike that can cross the road. The DR-650 is a road bike that can be taken on an easy trail." As I recall, the guy said he bought a DR-650 and shortly traded it in for a DRZ-400. A guy I know had a similar experience. He is a big guy over 6 foot and well over 200 lbs, maybe 240, and the dealer sold him a DR-650 for his first bike, as a street legal dirt bike. But, it was killing him to actually ride it in the rocky woods. In a matter of weeks he had traded the DR in - and he went all the way down to a KDX-220 (did I get the letters right, its the 2-stroke). For actual dirt, and for learning, lighter is better. Even a DRZ is only light compared to a BWM, or to a full road bike.
